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Societies that become too wealthy and abundant ('rat utopia') will lock in elder status, turn violent, and engage in wars that eventually lead to their collapse.

Said Oct 15, 2024 in Civilization #8: Rat Utopia and the Peloponnesian War @ 1:05:40

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A general historical theory with no specific society or timeframe; not checkable.

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If you're at utopia, societies will then engage in wars that will lead eventually to its collapse.
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